Comments on: Nice Attempted Save

By: Xrlq

Xrlq — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:22:46 +0000

No, you’re right that he was speaker of the house in 1968. Somewhere, I swear I had read that Barnes claimed to have used his subsequent position as Lt. Governor to help Bush get into the guard. According to the transcript of last week’s interview, that’s not true; he claimed to have helped Bush in his capacity as speaker, and later used his position as lieutenant governor to help others. Mea culpa.

By: Nels Nelson

Nels Nelson — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:09:37 +0000

My point was that George H. W. Bush was hardly “obscure,” as you characterized him. Son of a senator, served two terms in Congress, ran for U.S. Senate in Texas, and was currently serving as U.N. Ambassador; I’m guessing folks in government didn’t scratch their heads when they heard the “Bush” name.

And I thought Barnes was Speaker of the House when George W. Bush entered the National Guard in 1968. Do the dates not overlap?

By: Xrlq

Xrlq — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:41:22 +0000

It might make sense that some would have wanted to curry some favor, sure, but your list almost makes my point. Two-term Congressmen are a dime a dozen, and how much sway does the average long-retired, two-term Republican Senator from Connecticut has all that much sway among Texas Democrats? Especially Ben Barnes, who (in-)conveniently forgot that he didn’t even assume office until a year after he had supposedly used that office to help Prescott Bush’s grandson get into the Guard. Yet even he admits that no one in the Bush family sought any special treatment. So if there is a real story in there, it’s not a very big one.

Even if there is a real story on the Texas Air National Guard, that story pales by comparison to CBS’s misconduct. Shame on the Dog Trainer for claiming that CBS’s “real error” was in attempting to document their story, not in resorting to outright fraud in the process.

By: Nels Nelson

Nels Nelson — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:12:10 +0000

Oddly enough, however, she does recall cover your back memos, and also recalls Jerry Killian having had good reason to write such a memo about non-General Stoudt having pressured him to give favorable ratings to George W. Bush, the fortunate son of a then-obscure first term Congressman. O-kay.

From other reports I read, perhaps Drudge or Washington Post, Knox said that part of why she knew the documents were forgeries was because of the dates. She recalls Staudt having applied pressure while he was still in charge.

Also, by 1972 George H. W. Bush had been:

1. The son of a U.S. Senator
2. A two-term U.S. congressman
3. Republican nominee for U.S. Senate
4. U.N. Ambassador

I think he would have had some sway, or at least that others would have wanted to curry his favor.

By: Justene

Justene — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:37:33 +0000

Imagine if they found some forged Swift Boat docs. Somehow, just maybe, the “mainstream” media may see it differently.

My LA Times email arrived this morning as it does every morning, just to upset me. I ignore the paper on the doorstep (sports and comics are read by various other household members). This tripe was the top story and the third headline was Rather Rides Out Partisan Storm. Uh-huh.

By: SayUncle : To be clear

SayUncle : To be clear — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

[...] Post | Main | To be clear |By SayUncle| This concept that Yeah, sure those memos are fake but that’s not the real story is rather lame. [...]