Comments on: No blood for WINE! http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/ Politische Kommentare mit Snarkenremarken Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:50:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Phillip Connor http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-47698 Phillip Connor Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:30:47 +0000 http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/#comment-47698 To shoot four bears to protect one's property is the same reasoning as the ranchers who had government officials shoot as many as two hundred coyotes to protect their cattle. Environmentalists claim,and rightly so, that such action is inhumane and ultimately ineffective. Wine growers in Italy use only a fraction of their acreage for their vines and let the rest remain wild for other species.I'm sure if the proprietor of Aetna Springs had thought about why bears had been invading his property, he would have concluded that they are only doing what nature intended them to do. He could have consulted someone knowledgable in bio-dynamic practices and come up with other options.That he chose the least effective, least humane and easiest option says quite a lot about his character.My condolences to the bears. To shoot four bears to protect one’s property is the same reasoning as the ranchers who had government officials shoot as many as two hundred coyotes to protect their cattle. Environmentalists claim,and rightly
so, that such action is inhumane and ultimately ineffective. Wine growers in Italy use only a fraction of
their acreage for their vines and let the rest remain wild for other species.I’m sure if the proprietor of Aetna Springs had thought about why bears had been invading his property, he would have concluded that they
are only doing what nature intended them to do. He could
have consulted someone knowledgable in bio-dynamic practices and come up with other options.That he chose the least effective, least humane and easiest option says
quite a lot about his character.My condolences to the bears.

]]> By: Cardinal Martini http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-45830 Cardinal Martini Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:06:24 +0000 http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/#comment-45830 <strong>Killer Pepsi wants Bambi DEAD!...</strong> Okay, so in the past I may have gone a little overboard and called Pepsi "evil" and the "Devil's elixir", but I was just kidding. In fact, even though I don't like Pepsi itself, I have on occasion eaten some...... Killer Pepsi wants Bambi DEAD!…

Okay, so in the past I may have gone a little overboard and called Pepsi “evil” and the “Devil’s elixir”, but I was just kidding. In fact, even though I don’t like Pepsi itself, I have on occasion eaten some……

]]> By: damnum absque injuria » Let the bears pay the bear tax. I pay the Kipper tax. http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-43440 damnum absque injuria » Let the bears pay the bear tax. I pay the Kipper tax. Thu, 29 Dec 2005 05:50:28 +0000 http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/#comment-43440 [...] In an earlier post, I advanced the idea of killing bears that have been stealing people’s grapes in Northern California, and then eating the bears while sipping wine made from the very same grapes. Clever, no? In the comments section to the post, No Blood for Wine! (which was followed up by More on Killing Wild Bears), a gentleman named Leland suggested we boycott bear-unfriendly wineries, and was also apparently hungry so he asked what we thought he should prepare for supper: Should we trap and kill bald eagles that eat grapes, too? Killing then eating bears “while sipping a nice red wine” is not just a part of life. At least not mine. [...] [...] In an earlier post, I advanced the idea of killing bears that have been stealing people’s grapes in Northern California, and then eating the bears while sipping wine made from the very same grapes. Clever, no? In the comments section to the post, No Blood for Wine! (which was followed up by More on Killing Wild Bears), a gentleman named Leland suggested we boycott bear-unfriendly wineries, and was also apparently hungry so he asked what we thought he should prepare for supper: Should we trap and kill bald eagles that eat grapes, too? Killing then eating bears “while sipping a nice red wine” is not just a part of life. At least not mine. [...]

]]> By: Leland http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-43439 Leland Thu, 29 Dec 2005 04:32:07 +0000 http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/#comment-43439 Should we trap and kill bald eagles that eat grapes, too? Killing then eating bears "while sipping a nice red wine" is not just a part of life. At least not mine. Write a letter to the owner and let him know how feel. Aetna Springs Vineyards Attn Paul Maroon 1325 Imola Avenue #508 Napa, CA 94559 You can stop by the winery or call and find out who their distributors (resturants, stores, etc..)are, then contact them. Let them know that you will stop doing business with them as long as they do business with him. Let them put the pressure on Paul. Should we trap and kill bald eagles that eat grapes, too? Killing then eating bears “while sipping a nice red wine” is not just a part of life. At least not mine.

Write a letter to the owner and let him know how feel.

Aetna Springs Vineyards
Attn Paul Maroon
1325 Imola Avenue #508
Napa, CA 94559

You can stop by the winery or call and find out who their distributors (resturants, stores, etc..)are, then contact them. Let them know that you will stop doing business with them as long as they do business with him. Let them put the pressure on Paul.

]]> By: damnum absque injuria » More on killing (or not killing) wild bears http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-43308 damnum absque injuria » More on killing (or not killing) wild bears Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:06:06 +0000 http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/#comment-43308 [...] In the comments thread to an earlier post, “No blood for WINE!” Steven, whose IP address belongs to a college in The City, has left an interesting post: What is your position on these killings. I think it’s cruel, and unnecessary, and the winery owner is arrogant and cheap, too cheap to put up a decent fence to keep out wildlife. The law also needs changing so Fish and Game preserves wildlife rather than working for winemaker’s profits. If you’re likeminded do you know how to effectively start a boycott of this winery’s product? [...] [...] In the comments thread to an earlier post, “No blood for WINE!” Steven, whose IP address belongs to a college in The City, has left an interesting post: What is your position on these killings. I think it’s cruel, and unnecessary, and the winery owner is arrogant and cheap, too cheap to put up a decent fence to keep out wildlife. The law also needs changing so Fish and Game preserves wildlife rather than working for winemaker’s profits. If you’re likeminded do you know how to effectively start a boycott of this winery’s product? [...]

]]> By: Kipper (Cardinal Martini) http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-43307 Kipper (Cardinal Martini) Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:02:44 +0000 http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/#comment-43307 I think I have a less romantic view of wild, dangerous animals than some people. I also think that the pro-animal vintners in the story have a rather cavalier attitude about the bears. The fact is that intentionally attracting bears to areas populated by people is bad for the people and the bears, and they are the real trouble-makers in this story. If anyone is going to boycott any of the vineyards, I'd suggest it be the one owned by the woman who feeds sandwiches to the bears in Yosemite. Fish and Game should work for people. The winemakers should be working for a profit. If it is unnecessary to kill the bears, but instead they can simply be moved someplace else, then I'm in favor of that. I think I have a less romantic view of wild, dangerous animals than some people. I also think that the pro-animal vintners in the story have a rather cavalier attitude about the bears. The fact is that intentionally attracting bears to areas populated by people is bad for the people and the bears, and they are the real trouble-makers in this story. If anyone is going to boycott any of the vineyards, I’d suggest it be the one owned by the woman who feeds sandwiches to the bears in Yosemite.

Fish and Game should work for people. The winemakers should be working for a profit.

If it is unnecessary to kill the bears, but instead they can simply be moved someplace else, then I’m in favor of that.

]]> By: Steven http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/comment-page-1/#comment-43306 Steven Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:35:07 +0000 http://xrlq.com/2005/12/26/no-wine-for-blood/#comment-43306 What is your position on these killings. I think it's cruel, and unnecessary, and the winery owner is arrogant and cheap, too cheap to put up a decent fence to keep out wildlife. The law also needs changing so Fish and Game preserves wildlife rather than working for winemaker's profits. If you're likeminded do you know how to effectively start a boycott of this winery's product? What is your position on these killings. I think it’s cruel, and unnecessary, and the winery owner is arrogant and cheap, too cheap to put up a decent fence to keep out wildlife. The law also needs changing so Fish and Game preserves wildlife rather than working for winemaker’s profits. If you’re likeminded do you know how to effectively start a boycott of this winery’s product?

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