Who Won the Debate?
On the off chance that anyone still reads this thing, I say Ron Paul won the debate handily, for Rudy Guiliani. What say you?
UPDATE: So far, my commenters are following the footsteps of the candidates themselves by ignoring the question and answering “screw Giuliani.” More thoughts here.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:25 am
It’s too darn early to watch any debates. So I didn’t, as far as I could tell, House won, Foreman looked beat.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:57 am
Glad you’re still alive. We do check in from time to time. The brilliance of your post-election U of M fisking should carry you for another 6 mos.
I know you disdain Dr. Paul but he actually had a solid point:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWMyMTBjOTMzOWY5NmIyYTRjNjAzNWYwY2NiYTVmNTg=
His real mistake was that the forum made the point difficult to explain properly and gave Rudy the slow pitch he needed to crank one out of the park. Of course, not many seem to care about historical explanations (that actually indicts Clinton’s mishandling of foreign policy, btw) and also that in reality Rudy showed ignorance of national security issues (never heard of blowback?). So sure, Rudy won that part of the debate with his opportunistic grandstanding, but it was not on the actual merits of the issues being discussed, but b/c he was thrown a rhetorical lifesaver centered around the primary issue (his strong image after 9/11) that he has going for him as a GOP candidate.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Makes me glad that I’m not a paleo-libertarian anymore. Of course, it was the war and the insanity of isolationism that drove me away from them to start with.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
These are forums not debates. As I believe Rudy Giuliani is the death of the Republican Party of Ronald Reagan, Judicial Accountability or a Culture of Life I will not vote for him.
Rudy Giuliani has betrayed everyone in his life, including his children, for his own personal pleasure or pride. He left the NY Republican Party weaker than he found it. He has the instincts of a martinet and the tolerance for dissent of a Commisar. He detests the people’s right to be armed, disdains the value of human life in utero and would protect the institution of marriage as well as he has protected his own.
Giuliani is unfit by character to be President of the United States. All of his challengers are better men, even the loopy Ron Paul.
May 16th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
But let me tell you what I really think of him.
May 16th, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Yep. His shameless narcissism aside, Giuliani as GOP nominee would be the death-knell of social conservatism in the United States. Pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control, pro-amnesty. Can you imagine a Democratic candidate taking (or even having taken in the past) stances that so oppose the party’s base on all of those issues? Never.
May 17th, 2007 at 11:00 am
I think Ron Paul should start a new party.
May 21st, 2007 at 12:18 pm
There was a debate? About what? By whom?
May 21st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Just what we need, a meta-debate.