Comments on: Wal-Mart and Ammo http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/ Politische Kommentare mit Snarkenremarken Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:52:35 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Xrlq http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-562637 Xrlq Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:13:52 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-562637 Either that, or it was your fault for leaving a dumbass comment that could have been avoided simply by reading the earlier comments before throwing in your own worthless $.02 on a thread that's been dead for well over a year. If you really believe that horse shit about reselling unused ammo as a massive safety hazard, so the fuck what? It's not as though unspent ammo were the only consumer product that merchants can't re-sell; it's just the only one that they won't take back anyway because too many lemmings like you are willing to accept a level of customer non-service in that industry that no American with one-tenth of a spine would accept in any other. Firearms dealers fuck us over in this particular industry for one reason and one reason only: because they can. And fuck you very much for being a big part of the reason why they can. Either that, or it was your fault for leaving a dumbass comment that could have been avoided simply by reading the earlier comments before throwing in your own worthless $.02 on a thread that’s been dead for well over a year. If you really believe that horse shit about reselling unused ammo as a massive safety hazard, so the fuck what? It’s not as though unspent ammo were the only consumer product that merchants can’t re-sell; it’s just the only one that they won’t take back anyway because too many lemmings like you are willing to accept a level of customer non-service in that industry that no American with one-tenth of a spine would accept in any other. Firearms dealers fuck us over in this particular industry for one reason and one reason only: because they can. And fuck you very much for being a big part of the reason why they can.

]]> By: frank http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-562630 frank Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:35:55 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-562630 It was your fault for not looking at what you were buying. Who the heck buys ammo without looking at the box? Ammo should not be a returnable product anyway. It is a huge liability and safety issue. It was your fault for not looking at what you were buying. Who the heck buys ammo without looking at the box? Ammo should not be a returnable product anyway. It is a huge liability and safety issue.

]]> By: desertman http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-561900 desertman Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:28:21 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-561900 So lets see, YOU tell a $5.00 an hour clerk what you want. YOU accept what he gives YOU. YOU leave YOU discover the clerk is stupid. OH!!! wait the clerk made a mistake, and YOU are the STUPID. So lets see, YOU tell a $5.00 an hour clerk what you want. YOU accept what he gives YOU. YOU leave YOU discover the clerk is stupid. OH!!! wait the clerk made a mistake, and YOU are the STUPID.

]]> By: Douglas2 http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-561796 Douglas2 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:08:27 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-561796 This reminds me of the time I took my car to a service center for an oil-change. I did not stay to observe the work. I went home and returned later to pick up the car and drive across town. I was fully capable of checking the oil before I left the shop, and in fact have changed oil myself and am aware that the car needs oil in order to protect the engine. And like the situation above, I have far more education than the person who was actually performing the service, and should have far more motivation to ensure that it is right, as it was my own car that was serviced. Nevertheless, having asked for an oil change I assumed that an oil change was what had been provided. In fact what had been done was that the oil had been drained and the plug replaced. But now I have read the thread above, and know that this was my fault, and the service shop should have relied upon my checking that they had actually done what they were asked and paid to do. This reminds me of the time I took my car to a service center for an oil-change.

I did not stay to observe the work. I went home and returned later to pick up the car and drive across town.

I was fully capable of checking the oil before I left the shop, and in fact have changed oil myself and am aware that the car needs oil in order to protect the engine.

And like the situation above, I have far more education than the person who was actually performing the service, and should have far more motivation to ensure that it is right, as it was my own car that was serviced.

Nevertheless, having asked for an oil change I assumed that an oil change was what had been provided. In fact what had been done was that the oil had been drained and the plug replaced.

But now I have read the thread above, and know that this was my fault, and the service shop should have relied upon my checking that they had actually done what they were asked and paid to do.

]]> By: Cliff http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-561400 Cliff Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:20:18 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-561400 I've commented on this subject before, but I have a unique perspective. I work at the Sporting Goods counter at a WM in Texas; I just survived my third Christmas there. When I started, there were nondescript signs advising that ammo sales are final. I made some more eye-catching signs with the warning. I cannot speak for other stores, but we make every effort to have the customer verify the ammo before we ring it up. If they have to open the box, fine. It saves headaches later. Sometimes, especially at Christmas, someone will be sent to buy ammo on someone else's behalf. I urge them to call the person to double-check. If they're not sure, I suggest that they wait until they are sure. Yesterday, a customer bought a box of 12-gauge shells. Before he left the store, he came back and said he got the wrong kind. (He wanted steel shot.) I told him that he would have to go to Customer Service, but that they were already closed for the night. The shells he wanted cost 40 cents more than the ones he had purchased. So I took his box and gave him the one he wanted. I told him that he was getting a 40 cent discount on the ammo he really wanted. Why? It was just easier. I recognized the customer, and I ensured that he knew that he was getting an exception. This built goodwill, which is easier to gain than to regain. Not to brag, but it was just common sense. That's a rarity in your typical WM employee, I know, who cannot see beyond "the book". But let's face it -- WM is a target-rich environment for lawyers looking for deep pockets. And who's got deeper pockets than WM? So managers are risk-averse and are rigid. I'm sure this is not what Sam Walton had in mind when he started the store. All of the people posting to this have experience buying ammo. Make sure that what you're handed matches what you want, before you hand over your money, no matter where you buy it. It's your own responsibility -- this applies to anything you buy. If the clerk will not let you inspect the ammo before purchase, turn around and walk out the door. That will get their attention. I’ve commented on this subject before, but I have a unique perspective.
I work at the Sporting Goods counter at a WM in Texas; I just survived my third Christmas there.
When I started, there were nondescript signs advising that ammo sales are final. I made some more eye-catching signs with the warning. I cannot speak for other stores, but we make every effort to have the customer verify the ammo before we ring it up. If they have to open the box, fine. It saves headaches later.
Sometimes, especially at Christmas, someone will be sent to buy ammo on someone else’s behalf. I urge them to call the person to double-check. If they’re not sure, I suggest that they wait until they are sure.
Yesterday, a customer bought a box of 12-gauge shells. Before he left the store, he came back and said he got the wrong kind. (He wanted steel shot.) I told him that he would have to go to Customer Service, but that they were already closed for the night. The shells he wanted cost 40 cents more than the ones he had purchased.
So I took his box and gave him the one he wanted. I told him that he was getting a 40 cent discount on the ammo he really wanted.
Why? It was just easier. I recognized the customer, and I ensured that he knew that he was getting an exception. This built goodwill, which is easier to gain than to regain.
Not to brag, but it was just common sense. That’s a rarity in your typical WM employee, I know, who cannot see beyond “the book”. But let’s face it — WM is a target-rich environment for lawyers looking for deep pockets. And who’s got deeper pockets than WM? So managers are risk-averse and are rigid. I’m sure this is not what Sam Walton had in mind when he started the store.
All of the people posting to this have experience buying ammo. Make sure that what you’re handed matches what you want, before you hand over your money, no matter where you buy it. It’s your own responsibility — this applies to anything you buy.
If the clerk will not let you inspect the ammo before purchase, turn around and walk out the door. That will get their attention.

]]> By: Bill http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-561381 Bill Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:48:05 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-561381 Dick's did same to me. Asked for copper jacketed, walked out door and saw was not copper jacketed turned around and they said , "No Ammo returns". Their mistake, my bad for taking clerks word. Dick’s did same to me. Asked for copper jacketed, walked out door and saw was not copper jacketed turned around and they said , “No Ammo returns”. Their mistake, my bad for taking clerks word.

]]> By: Xrlq http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-560641 Xrlq Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:40:17 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-560641 That's got to be two of the dumbest arguments I've heard to date. First you quote a federal law that doesn't exist, then you suggest that taking back my obviously unused ammo would have allowed others to return empty shells. Why do I believe the part about you being a Wal-Mart employee? That’s got to be two of the dumbest arguments I’ve heard to date. First you quote a federal law that doesn’t exist, then you suggest that taking back my obviously unused ammo would have allowed others to return empty shells. Why do I believe the part about you being a Wal-Mart employee?

]]> By: Joe http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-560634 Joe Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:29:12 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-560634 wal-mart employee here. we cannot accept returns on ammo or firearms are: one: federal law two: somebody could use either firearm or ammo, go out, shoot somebody, come back and try to get rid of the evidence. wal-mart employee here. we cannot accept returns on ammo or firearms are:

one: federal law

two: somebody could use either firearm or ammo, go out, shoot somebody, come back and try to get rid of the evidence.

]]> By: Xrlq http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-559950 Xrlq Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:49:09 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-559950 No shit, Sherlock. Now kindly explain (1) WTF my being a lawyer has to do with any of this discussion or (2) why consumers should tolerate a level of customer service when purchasing firearms or ammunition that they'd never put up with when purchasing anything else. No shit, Sherlock. Now kindly explain (1) WTF my being a lawyer has to do with any of this discussion or (2) why consumers should tolerate a level of customer service when purchasing firearms or ammunition that they’d never put up with when purchasing anything else.

]]> By: Bryan http://xrlq.com/2008/09/10/wal-mart-and-ammo/comment-page-2/#comment-559943 Bryan Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:57:20 +0000 http://xrlq.com/?p=3662#comment-559943 I have read through most of this thread, and enjoyed many chuckles on both sides of the tirades. Besides the juvenile use of junior high language and lack of basic consideration, I have to wonder if any one else thought, "No wonder lawyers have such a bad reputation." Lots of luck with your next ammo purchase- and remember to check which end of the gun you have pointed at yourself - it isn't marked you know, you need to LOOK AT IT! I have read through most of this thread, and enjoyed many chuckles on both sides of the tirades. Besides the juvenile use of junior high language and lack of basic consideration, I have to wonder if any one else thought, “No wonder lawyers have such a bad reputation.” Lots of luck with your next ammo purchase- and remember to check which end of the gun you have pointed at yourself – it isn’t marked you know, you need to LOOK AT IT!

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