NRA and Harry Reid
The NRA only finally got around to not endorsing Harry Reid. Damned sellouts.
The NRA only finally got around to not endorsing Harry Reid. Damned sellouts.
CSM sez that Paul Helmke dba Brady Center sez that Pennsylvania has the 10th strictest gun laws in the country. Huh? As a resident of the only southern state that should have made the list (but mysteriously did not) I’d gladly trade our gun laws for their any day of the week.
Looks like I may have spoken too soon. Seems that Marriott hasn’t taken down any anti-gun-owner signs (yet?) and that its anti-gun roots run deeper than previously thought. Stay tuned.
Looks like the long overdue “premature” boycott against corporate gun-grabbing Marriott has paid off in a matter of days. It’s not official yet, but this email from GRNC suggests that there is an excellent chance the gun-grabbing Marriott will soon be the formerly gun-grabbing Marriott, not just in Charlotte but worldwide:
Grass Roots North Carolina, P.O. Box 10684, Raleigh, NC 27605
919-664-8565, www.grnc.org, GRNC Alert Hotline: (919) 562-4137
GRNC Alert 05-24-10:
GRNC campaign leads Marriott to say signs will be removed
Grass Roots North Carolina began a “Don’t Buy” campaign against Marriott International after its Charlotte hotel took money from and then made inadvertent criminals of hundreds of gun owners by posting “no firearms” signs *during* the weekend of the NRA convention and GRNC’s “Gala for Gun Rights.” Marriott confessed to a prohibition on firearms in all of its properties, many of which were posted.
After GRNC began the effort and Gun Rights Examiners Paul Valone, Dave Workman and David Codrea and others ran it, the boycott immediately “went viral,” appearing on forums across the country and generating untold numbers of contacts to Marriott – many of which were from Marriott’s “Rewards” members who supported the boycott. On Sunday, the Marriott boycott made nationally-syndicated radio on Tom Gresham’s “Gun Talk.”
Today, upper level Marriott executive Keith Thomas told GRNC board member Bill Krupicka that signs from the Charlotte property had already been removed, and that signs across the country will be removed promptly.
Please bear in mind that this victory is conditional: Marriott has not yet confirmed its policy, and a public apology to the gun owners staying in and traversing the Marriott across the weekend of the NRA convention has not yet been issued. Accordingly, please do not relax pressure against Marriott International yet. More information will be provided as it becomes available.
IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED
* Keith Thomas: Reports directly to JW Marriott, Jr. himself. Thomas can be reached at Mr. Marriott’s office at either keith.thomas@marriott.com or 800-621-0999.
* Kathleen Matthews, Executive Vice President, Global Communications and Public Affairs: Kathleen.Matthews@marriott.com, 301-380-7770. Also include her assistant, Marilyn Cole at: marilyn.cole@marriott.com or 301-380-7525.
* Chad Callaghan, Vice President of Loss Prevention: chad.callaghan@marriott.com. Also call his assistant Pat Murphy at 301-380-7814 and presuming he ignores your call, feel free to page him at: 800-313-9391.
* Jim Diehl: Don’t forget the General Manager (and reportedly regional executive) who started this mess:, jim.diehl@marriott.com, phone: 704-333-9000, fax (directly to his office): 704-358-6522.
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Looks good for now, but keep the calls coming. As Yogi usedta say, it ain’t over till it’s over.
Continuing Retard Week: as bad as Annenberg Political (humorously known as “FactCheck.org”), Politifact, Snopes and the rest of the “your opinions are myths, mine are facts, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah” web sites may be, one site among them, TruthOrFiction.com, warrants special attention. Check out their entry purporting to debunk the popular “doctors are more dangerous than guns” meme. While the author of the page acknowledges that the figure on licensed physicians in the U.S. was probably good (700,000 in the year the email originally circulated vs. 780,000 in 2008), they label the email as fiction because, in their view, “not all of the statistics appear accurate.” They proceed to identify the statistics they believe to be inaccurate, and offer statistics of their own:
| Number of physicians in U.S. | ||
| Accidental deaths caused by physicians | ||
| Accidental deaths per physician | ||
| Number of gun owners in the U.S. | ||
| Annual accidental gun deaths (total) | ||
| Annual accidental gun deaths per gun owner | ||
| Factor by which doctors are more deadly than guns |
If you’re not a retard, your first reaction to the above table would be to say “Wow, not only are doctors 9,000 times more dangerous than guns, as originally claimed in that email, the real figure is much worse than that!” Your second reaction would to say “Wait a minute, that higher figure on gun ownership can’t be right. Sure, we have one of the highest rates of firearm ownership in the world, but with a total population of 305 million there is no friggin’ way that 96% of us own guns.” Of course, if you are not a retard, you are also overqualified to write for TruthOrFiction:
Regarding gun owners, figures from 2002-2001 from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives said there are 294 million gun owners in the U.S., a much higher figure that [sic] that quoted in the email.
Most of us count years from 2001 to 2002, not from 2002 to 2001, but never mind that. Between this crazy statistic (vs. 80 million, a figure that is well established among anyone with a passing knowledge about firearms in the U.S.), the fact that they deem something “fiction” when their own stats suggest it is an understated fact, and stamping the page as last updated on 2/20/07 while quoting stats from 2008, they seem to be on a mission to make James Frey look credible. I mean, at least in his case you can be reasonably sure that Chapter Four really was the fourth chapter in the book, and that he really does have parents. Remember this the next time anyone sends you a link to anything on TruthOrFiction.com purporting to prove anything.
*The number quoted in original email, as reproduced at TruthOrFiction, is actually off by a factor of ten, reading as 0.000188 instead of 0.0000188. However, they must have used the right figure in the actual calculation, else they would have concluded that doctors are only 900 times more dangerous than guns rather than 9,000.
Sebastian thinks the boycott is premature. I say it’s long overdue.
Grass Roots North Carolina notes that the Charlotte Marriott made instant criminals of countless guests by putting up no guns” signs while the event was underway – and long after GRNC had selected the venue in reliance on it being gun-friendly (at least in the Starbucksian sense of the phrase, i.e., not openly hostile to gun owners). Many have complained, and the good news is that Marriott has apologized. The bad is that rather than apologizing for putting those signs up and exposing their guests to criminal prosecution, their apology was for not having the signs up all along:
Dear Valued Guest,
Correction: the remainder of this email will make it clear that from their perspective I am not valued, nor am I a guest.
Thank you for contacting Marriott. We appreciate the opportunity to provide you with information.
Neat, but I didn’t ask them for information. I contacted them to provide them with information.
We would like to thank Grass Roots North Carolina/Forum for Firearms Education for its business at the Charlotte Marriott City Center hotel.
In other words: we like money. Fair enough, but….
During the group’s stay, there was some confusion regarding the hotel’s position on the carrying of firearms by the public. It has been the hotel’s long-standing policy to not allow firearms by the public on the premises.
In other words, they are an explicitly anti-gun organization, which has thus far managed to stay off the NRA blacklist despite being far worse than most of the companies on it. This, in turn, allowed them to exploit that very confusion not just during GRNC’s stay, but for months before that; else GRNC members (and Lord knows how many NRA members) take their business elsewhere.
In accordance with applicable law, this policy is posted in several locations around the hotel. Marriott’s policy is to comply with all applicable laws and ordinances.
From these weasel words you’d almost thing there were some law or ordinance requiring Marriott to post no guns signs around the hotel. Of course no law does; what the applicable law (North Carolina General Statute 14-415.11(c) – there are no applicable ordinances due to preemption) does do is convert what would otherwise be a mere civil trespass into a crime that can get our Valued GuestsTM fined, imprisoned and deprived of their right to carry anywhere in the state or even purchase firearms without their sheriffs’ permission. If this is what they do to their Valued GuestsTM, I shudder to think what they’d do to the guests they don’t value.
We are a hospitality company that provides public accommodations and space for events and functions. We do this without regard to the lawful purpose or views of any specific group or organization.
Yeah, it’s might hospitable of you to not be quite as hostile to the First Amendment as to the Second, but a company serious about hospitality wouldn’t have such a ridiculous policy in teh first place. There’s certainly nothing hospitable about tricking thousands of law-abiding gun owners into patronizing your joint, only to turn around and expose them to criminal liability for taking you up on your offer of faux hospitality.
As always, the safety and security of our guests and associates is a top priority.
So high that you adopt a lame-brained policy that has no potential of making any of your guests or associates safe, and ample potential to endanger them.
Regards,
Marriott Customer Care
Translated: disregards, some lying crapweasel who won’t even stand up and put his/her/its name behind his/her/its words. Let’s call him/her/it … oh, I dunno …. Kathleen Matthews? Or maybe here assistant, Marilyn Cole? I doubt it was Jim Diehl, the brainiac who started this mess.
Note that despite having non-signed the email, he/she/it isn’t quite done yet. While Marriott loves to “comply with all applicable laws and ordinances” that enable it to expose others to criminal liability for exercising their legal and constitutional rights wherever they can, that doesn’t mean they’re above quoting scary, legal-sounding gibberish where no such law applies:
This communication contains information from Marriott International, Inc. that may be confidential. Except for personal use by the intended recipient, or as expressly authorized by the sender, any person who receives this information is prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, and/or using it. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law.
So to the extent that receiving mail from someone is the equivalent of being on their property, Marriott takes it upon themselves to say, in essence, “by reading my smarmy email you agree not to fisk it in a public forum.” Sorry, Marriott, no dice. Gun owners made the mistake of paying Marriott a fortune last week in Charlotte. We won’t be making that mistake again.
UPDATE: The original version of this post omitted Diehl’s name and address, on the theory that he was just taking orders from on high. After re-reading the message I’m not so sure; they never actually said it was the entire chain’s policy to require its Valued GuestsTM to be sitting ducks; only that it was the longstanding policy of “the hotel.” I’ve sent them a follow-up email asking for clarification on that point, but meanwhile, I’m leaving Diehl’s name and email address up there now, because at a minimum he is the one responsible for negotiating this deal with a gun rights outfit he knew, or should have known, would expect to be allowed to carry there.
Uncly-Wuncly has a roundup, but here are the only numbers anyone really cares about:
This year’s convention was almost mandatory Charlotte is an hour away, but it would have been well worth the drive even if I lived nowhere near there. I had the pleasure of finally meeting Sister Toldjah, whom I’ve followed off and on for almost as long as either of us have been blogging. Just as sweet in person as you’d think from her blog; not a gunnie but I’m working on that. Also had the pleasure of meeting Breda, Jay G., PDB, Alan, Weer’d Beard, Unix Jedi, OrangeNeck and others whose names I’ve already forgotten. And of course it was good to catch up with Bitter B., Uncle, Sebastian, Joe Huffman, Caleb, Mike W. and Countertop again. Among the missing were Robb, Tam and Sailorcurt, along with too many others to count. As to the all stars, we were lucky enough to meet with both of the Daves, although our light blue law allowed the first Drinking With The Daves to proceed as Kopel Runneth Over, while reducing the second, a Sunday brunch while liquor was banned, to Hardly With Hardy. Both events were highly educational, however, as was Saturday night with Alan Gura. Missed opportunities consisted of John Lott, who was also there but our paths never crossed, and Paul Helmke dba Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The gunbloggers present at the Federalist Society debate, consisting of Countertop, Uncly-Wuncly, Joe H. and myself, actually chatted with the entire organization guy briefly after the debate, and I failed to ask him even once if he … um, I mean, his organization … has anti-gun ranges at their national conventions. Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn.
Of course, not everyone in Charlotte this weekend was pro-gun:


Here are pics of Alan “Mr. Second Amendment” Gura and Paul Helmke dba Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, soon to face off at the Federalist Society. More later.
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