Catherine Crier has been on FoxNews all day touting her view that the law giving the federal courts authority to hear Terri Schiavo’s case is unconstitutional. On Hannity & Colmes, she repeated this charge, screaming over ACLJ representative Jay Sekulow at least twice that the law is a “bill of attainder.” The end of their exchange was particularly embarassing:
HANNITY: This is what is in play here, Catherine. Here you have Congressional subpoenas ignored by an arrogant judiciary.
SEKULOW: Right.
HANNITY: Here you have laws that are dismissed outright without any consideration. They’re supposed to be, Catherine, co-equal branches of government and for these judicial tyrants, frankly, to ignore these laws …
SEKULOW: Right.
HANNITY: …to that extent, really puts into jeopardy the question of whether or not we have co-equal branches of government.
CRIER (talking over the last half-sentence): OK, Sean, let me answer it. Let me answer it. Number one, the request they made was that the federal judiciary take a look at this. That was the legislation out of the federal government, and in fact the federal judiciary has bent over backwards to do exactly that.
SEKULOW: Catherine, it was supposed to be de novo …
CRIER: Second, secondarily…
SEKULOW: Hold it. It … the statute said, if you read the statute, the statute says de novo trial. That’s what it says. That means a complete re-look. You can’t do that in an hour and thirty-five minute oral argument. You know that, and I know that. That’s not due process.
CRIER: Well, but, but it …
SEKULOW: That’s a wink and a nod.
CRIER: But it was illegitimate for the federal government or the state …
SEKULOW: No one said … you may not like the statute but no one’s held it unconstitutional.
CRIER (talking over the last half of that sentence): Jay, we’re going to take turns here, I assume we’re going to get both a hearing here.
SEKULOW: Get your facts right.
CRIER: And that is the state court just like the federal court cannot do a bill of attainder. They cannot write a piece of legislation for ….
SEKULOW: No court yet has said that this statute is unconstitutional.
CRIER (in a raised voice): Jay, are you just going to simply filibuster and shout me down or are we going to have a two-way conversation here?
SEKULOW: Well, get your facts right.
CRIER (screeching): Well, get YOUR facts right! And that is this is a bill of attainder
SEKULOW: It’s called an an act of Congress, and nobody’s held it unconstitutional.
CRIER: It is inappropriate for the government to write a piece of legislation for a single individual. You know that, I know that it’s absolutely UN-CONSTITUTIONAL.
SEKULOW: No court has held it unconstitutional.
HANNITY: Guys, hang on one second. Here’s the point I want to make here.
CRIER: Yeah, Sean.
HANNITY: We elect representatives to go make laws. That’s what we hire them to do. But for judges to just dismiss out of hand Congressional subpoenas, dismiss out of hand laws passed by Congress, signed by the President of the United States, it shows that they have no respect for that other branch of government. They are the ones that are out of control…
CRIER: But Sean…
HANNITY: I don’t understand why you …
CRIER: Sean…
HANNITY: don’t see that.
CRIER: If it is unconstitutional for Congress to write a bill regarding one individual, if that is inappropriate given our Constitution forward, why are we supposed to say the judges are doing wrong?
HANNITY: One judge…
SEKULOW: Catherine! No judge has said it’s unconstitutional!
CRIER (screaming): It is unconstitutional!
SEKULOW: They raised that, the courts did not say it was unconstitutional. You don’t like it. That doesn’t make it unconstitutional.
CRIER (screaming over that last sentence): You can scream all day long, but the fact is it is unconstitutional.
SEKULOW: I guess you’re the judge and the jury now.
CRIER: No, I believe in the rule of law, and obviously you don’t.
In other words, not only is Crier the legal eagle too stupid or too lazy to look up the phrase “bill of attainder” before bandying it about, she also thinks that it’s OK for a court to take jurisdiction and do a half-assed job if the Constitution says they had no right to take jurisdiction at all. Can just anybody work for CourtTV these days?
UPDATE: According to Wuzzadem, this mental midget was a judge, too. So basically, we have one judge who doesn’t know what a bill of attainder is, passionately defending the credentials of another judge, who doesn’t know what teh common English words “clear” or “convincing” mean. That should do wonders to build everybody’s confidence on the judiciary.
UPDATE x2: Here’s the silver lining. While constitutional illiteracy appears to be a helpful trait for those seeking to appear on CourtTV, at least it’s not an absolute requirement. In this online call-in program, Florida lawyer and blogger Matt Conigliaro states correctly the ruleof what is or isn’t a bill of attainder:
Question from anna: Isn’t it unconstitutional for Congress to get involved in a personal matter such as this?
Question from tfarrugia: Doesn’t the fact that the law specifically addresses an individual make it unconstitutional?
Matt Conigliaro: Unfortunately, constitutional questions can be very complex. Congress has the authority to pass laws that affect an individual, so long as the law comes within one of Congress’s powers and does not violate any constitutional right. For instance, Congress is prohibited from passing bills of attainder. If this is a bill of attainder, then it’s unconstitutional. Whether it is or not is rather complicated and concerns whether Terri is being punished. In the past, bills of attainder were usually laws that were passed in order to sentence someone for an offense. Imagine if Congress decided that Michael Jackson was guilty of a crime and just passed a law saying he is to spend 10 years in prison. That would be a bill of attainder.
[Emphasis added.]
Bingo. The only thing I would have said differently myself is that the chances of Congress passing any statute designed to punish Terri Schiavo were slim to none, and therefore, this issue wasn’t really so complicated after all.